Comments on: Gospel Singer Tonex admits to being Gay http://www.christocentric.com/main/?p=2120 Christ-centered commentary NOT for the faint of heart! Wed, 25 Aug 2010 16:43:26 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Carlotta Morrow http://www.christocentric.com/main/?p=2120&cpage=1#comment-4021 Carlotta Morrow Wed, 21 Jul 2010 14:48:39 +0000 http://blog.christocentric.com/?p=2120#comment-4021 Sunshine, you are right about this generation. This is the generation that believes that God's love conforms to their own individual desires. This generation also picks and chooses what commandments of God they wish to obey, without a full self-denying commitment to Him. Sadly, Tonex (aka Brian Slade) is just another example of this self-centered self-fulfilling false worship of God and all we can do is continue praying for him and others like him when they refuse to adhere to God's true word. Sunshine, you are right about this generation. This is the generation that believes that God’s love conforms to their own individual desires. This generation also picks and chooses what commandments of God they wish to obey, without a full self-denying commitment to Him.

Sadly, Tonex (aka Brian Slade) is just another example of this self-centered self-fulfilling false worship of God and all we can do is continue praying for him and others like him when they refuse to adhere to God’s true word.

]]> By: sunshine7 http://www.christocentric.com/main/?p=2120&cpage=1#comment-4018 sunshine7 Wed, 21 Jul 2010 00:22:59 +0000 http://blog.christocentric.com/?p=2120#comment-4018 Wow! I'm just finding out about this and its July 2010. We are told to confess our faults to one another and pray for one another so that we may be healed. At the same time, we are to confess and forsake our sins. To forske something means to give it up, turn away from, repent. The problem with this generation is that they feel that God must take the feelings from them, and not that they have to fight those feelings. We are to love God with all our heart, mind, and strength. The strength part means with effort. It takes effort to restrain ourselves from our own lusts. The Bible says we are tempted of our own lusts, but that God makes a way of escape for us. The bottom line here is, if we really want to abstain from these things, yes, we sometimes have to war against them within ourselves. This is to help us build character and to keep us humble. It builds strength in us and keeps us on our toes. It is not an excuse to say that God won't take it away from us. It's just like the alcoholic and/or the drug addict. They must fight against their flesh. We must fight likewise, against whatever tempts us in the flesh. Our Messiah was tempted but without sin. We can overcome these things even if it takes effort. So be it. No excuse in giving up and becoming the victim. Yes we may struggle and slip but ultimately, we overcome. Rome wasn't built in a day, and we must continue the fight to the finish. God made Eve for Adam and that's just the way it is. Anything else is perversion and Satan knows it. Homosexuality is an abomination. It is written..... Wow! I’m just finding out about this and its July 2010. We are told to confess our faults to one another and pray for one another so that we may be healed. At the same time, we are to confess and forsake our sins. To forske something means to give it up, turn away from, repent. The problem with this generation is that they feel that God must take the feelings from them, and not that they have to fight those feelings. We are to love God with all our heart, mind, and strength. The strength part means with effort. It takes effort to restrain ourselves from our own lusts. The Bible says we are tempted of our own lusts, but that God makes a way of escape for us. The bottom line here is, if we really want to abstain from these things, yes, we sometimes have to war against them within ourselves. This is to help us build character and to keep us humble. It builds strength in us and keeps us on our toes. It is not an excuse to say that God won’t take it away from us. It’s just like the alcoholic and/or the drug addict. They must fight against their flesh. We must fight likewise, against whatever tempts us in the flesh. Our Messiah was tempted but without sin. We can overcome these things even if it takes effort. So be it. No excuse in giving up and becoming the victim. Yes we may struggle and slip but ultimately, we overcome. Rome wasn’t built in a day, and we must continue the fight to the finish. God made Eve for Adam and that’s just the way it is. Anything else is perversion and Satan knows it. Homosexuality is an abomination. It is written…..

]]> By: Tish http://www.christocentric.com/main/?p=2120&cpage=1#comment-3398 Tish Thu, 17 Jun 2010 00:53:20 +0000 http://blog.christocentric.com/?p=2120#comment-3398 I am just finding out Tonex came out of the closet. God knows all about him and that is between him and God. I am just finding out Tonex came out of the closet. God knows all about him and that is between him and God.

]]> By: Carlotta Morrow http://www.christocentric.com/main/?p=2120&cpage=1#comment-2751 Carlotta Morrow Tue, 02 Mar 2010 05:33:27 +0000 http://blog.christocentric.com/?p=2120#comment-2751 Nicole, you are clearly ignoring the scriptures and making up your own beliefs and values. God makes it plain that homosexuality is sin (Leviticus 18:22 and Romans 1:26-27). You are only deceiving yourself in rejecting God's truth and His truth is clear: monogamous marriage between a man and a woman is the only sex that is acceptable in His eyes. Nicole, you are clearly ignoring the scriptures and making up your own beliefs and values. God makes it plain that homosexuality is sin (Leviticus 18:22 and Romans 1:26-27). You are only deceiving yourself in rejecting God’s truth and His truth is clear: monogamous marriage between a man and a woman is the only sex that is acceptable in His eyes.

]]> By: Nicole http://www.christocentric.com/main/?p=2120&cpage=1#comment-2750 Nicole Mon, 01 Mar 2010 07:11:34 +0000 http://blog.christocentric.com/?p=2120#comment-2750 THIS JUST MAKES ME SAD. WHEN WILL THE REALIZATION DAWN THAT THE BIBLE HAS THESE BEAUTIFUL GEMS OF LOVE...AMIDST THE CORRUPTION OF SOME WHO WROTE OR TRANSLATED IT. IT'S LIKE "THE LITTLE BIBLE THAT COULD!" I LOVE MY BIBLE AND SEARCH DAILY FOR THE WORD THAT REALLY MATTERS. PEOPLE WHO ARE HETEROSEXUAL CAN EASILY SAY BEING GAY IS A CHOICE. BUT THEY KNOW NOT WHAT THEY SAY. IF THEY WALKED A MILE IN A GAY PERSON'S SHOES, I DO BELIEVE THEY MIGHT TELL A DIFFERENT STORY. THE REALIZATION MAY COME. I HONOR MY BISEXUALITY AND FEEL THE JOY AND LOVE AND APPROVAL OF GOD EVERYDAY. I AM SO THANKFUL FOR BEING WHO I AM. I LOOK FORWARD WITH HOPE FOR A FUTURE WHERE WE NO LONGER PUT SOMEONE ON THE BACK OF THE BUS BECAUSE WE THINK WE ARE THE JUDGE. THIS JUST MAKES ME SAD. WHEN WILL THE REALIZATION DAWN THAT THE BIBLE HAS THESE BEAUTIFUL GEMS OF LOVE…AMIDST THE CORRUPTION OF SOME WHO WROTE OR TRANSLATED IT. IT’S LIKE “THE LITTLE BIBLE THAT COULD!” I LOVE MY BIBLE AND SEARCH DAILY FOR THE WORD THAT REALLY MATTERS. PEOPLE WHO ARE HETEROSEXUAL CAN EASILY SAY BEING GAY IS A CHOICE. BUT THEY KNOW NOT WHAT THEY SAY. IF THEY WALKED A MILE IN A GAY PERSON’S SHOES, I DO BELIEVE THEY MIGHT TELL A DIFFERENT STORY. THE REALIZATION MAY COME. I HONOR MY BISEXUALITY AND FEEL THE JOY AND LOVE AND APPROVAL OF GOD EVERYDAY. I AM SO THANKFUL FOR BEING WHO I AM. I LOOK FORWARD WITH HOPE FOR A FUTURE WHERE WE NO LONGER PUT SOMEONE ON THE BACK OF THE BUS BECAUSE WE THINK WE ARE THE JUDGE.

]]> By: June http://www.christocentric.com/main/?p=2120&cpage=1#comment-2185 June Wed, 14 Oct 2009 02:35:59 +0000 http://blog.christocentric.com/?p=2120#comment-2185 First of all, I want to say to to MSbliss's comment at the top of the page that you totally contradicted yourself by saying that the bible is made up and that you dont believe in it, but the last comment that you left said that someone "was a disgrace to the word of God." Im pretty sure that we all agree that that statement doesnt make any sense. Secondly, we are all God's children. No one man is bigger or better than God. We as people put all of our problems and utterly sins on our Pastors. Our Pastors are the same as us, they are no more than Preachers who break the bible down and give us direction to walk down the glory road leading to God. When you repent your sins it says in the bible to give them all to Jesus because he has the holy strength to bear that. There is no way that a man can. And lets not forget that the point of church is to fellowship and repent your sins.Which means, that if you are going to church than you are going for a reason because if you were perfect then there would be no need for church. Every one person in this world deserves the same respect that we give our pastors,ministers,evangelist etc. We all know that on judgment day it will be you by yourself. No one can ultimately save you from eternal damnation but Jesus. Everyone else is just here to praise with and fellowship with and praise his Holy name. Whatever Tonex is going through is between him and God. If all else fails and you dont know what to think between Tonex and Music, then simply get on your knees and pray and God will definitely show you the way. First of all, I want to say to to MSbliss’s comment at the top of the page that you totally contradicted yourself by saying that the bible is made up and that you dont believe in it, but the last comment that you left said that someone “was a disgrace to the word of God.” Im pretty sure that we all agree that that statement doesnt make any sense. Secondly, we are all God’s children. No one man is bigger or better than God. We as people put all of our problems and utterly sins on our Pastors. Our Pastors are the same as us, they are no more than Preachers who break the bible down and give us direction to walk down the glory road leading to God. When you repent your sins it says in the bible to give them all to Jesus because he has the holy strength to bear that. There is no way that a man can. And lets not forget that the point of church is to fellowship and repent your sins.Which means, that if you are going to church than you are going for a reason because if you were perfect then there would be no need for church. Every one person in this world deserves the same respect that we give our pastors,ministers,evangelist etc. We all know that on judgment day it will be you by yourself. No one can ultimately save you from eternal damnation but Jesus. Everyone else is just here to praise with and fellowship with and praise his Holy name. Whatever Tonex is going through is between him and God. If all else fails and you dont know what to think between Tonex and Music, then simply get on your knees and pray and God will definitely show you the way.

]]> By: Carlotta http://www.christocentric.com/main/?p=2120&cpage=1#comment-2016 Carlotta Wed, 16 Sep 2009 05:37:36 +0000 http://blog.christocentric.com/?p=2120#comment-2016 Trice and bfears, for the sake of repeating myself over and over again, I've put up some videos by a young man who's pretty much gone over much of what has been talked about on this post. A lot of questions that I didn't answer are answered on my next post: "Can you be a homosexual AND a Christian?" Check it out and place your comments over there as I'm closing the comments on this post. Thank you! Trice and bfears, for the sake of repeating myself over and over again, I’ve put up some videos by a young man who’s pretty much gone over much of what has been talked about on this post. A lot of questions that I didn’t answer are answered on my next post: “Can you be a homosexual AND a Christian?” Check it out and place your comments over there as I’m closing the comments on this post.

Thank you!

]]> By: bfears http://www.christocentric.com/main/?p=2120&cpage=1#comment-2015 bfears Wed, 16 Sep 2009 04:31:55 +0000 http://blog.christocentric.com/?p=2120#comment-2015 just because he is a homosexual doesnt mean he isnt living for the Lord. He is PASTOR! I mean that is living for the Lord! just because he is a homosexual doesnt mean he isnt living for the Lord. He is PASTOR! I mean that is living for the Lord!

]]> By: bfears http://www.christocentric.com/main/?p=2120&cpage=1#comment-2014 bfears Wed, 16 Sep 2009 04:30:42 +0000 http://blog.christocentric.com/?p=2120#comment-2014 trice, you basically said everything tht was in my little mind. i agree abt the tonex pastoring thing, & honestly i agree with everything you said. and to paul he probaly told his church, before, at the same time, or right after that interview. either way, they know. & they then can choose if they want to continue to be a member of the church or not. its each members choice. & i dont think no one can make that choice for them. trice, you basically said everything tht was in my little mind. i agree abt the tonex pastoring thing, & honestly i agree with everything you said. and to paul he probaly told his church, before, at the same time, or right after that interview. either way, they know. & they then can choose if they want to continue to be a member of the church or not. its each members choice. & i dont think no one can make that choice for them.

]]> By: Trice http://www.christocentric.com/main/?p=2120&cpage=1#comment-2013 Trice Wed, 16 Sep 2009 03:13:57 +0000 http://blog.christocentric.com/?p=2120#comment-2013 Id like to start off by saying that no man or woman on this Earth really has the right to say Tonex shouldn't be pastoring any longer because of who and what he is. Yes you have every right to state your opinion but at the same time that doesn't mean it has to happen, nor that you're right. I understand how it could be a disappointment to many but it is what it is. When you're gay or lesbian or even a struggling transgender you do get tired of holding back how you truly feel. And this I know. So he went ahead and did what he felt he should do. This man preaches the word of God, and regardless of his sexuality, race, disablity, ethnicity, ect, he still IS a child of God. When that book of life is flipped open believe that none of our opinions will matter. God loves all of us equally. I get so tired of the heterosexual community downing gays and talking about how their hell bound...I hope you know just by saying that you could be hell bound yourself. You can't actually understand the lifestyle unless you've lived or live it, and that's the true problem here, everyone judges what they don't understand. Question: if being a homosexual is wrong, then how do you explain the people that are actually born that way? There have been studies and people really are born attracted to the same sex. Id like to say that a lot of the homosexuals I know including myself has asked God to remove the feeling to want to be with the same sex, and nothing has happened. I've said many of times "I don't want to be a lesbian", its too much trouble, and I don't even know for sure if its right or wrong, and one day I will know the real answer, and if it is wrong then God will do what he needs to with me, and if it is right the same. Although I do feel like change is what you have to truly want, and for the first few times I asked for this to be removed I didn't want it, but these last few times I did and I'm still where I've been for 7 years. But, as far as the bible goes, people interpret it differently, and what message God may have for you, he may not have the same one for me, or anyone else. He speaks to us all in different ways. I know I've probably rambled and gotten on subject but whatever. All I'm saying here is that if any person is called to preach the word of God let them do just that. If people feel in their hearts that he's wrong for continuing to pastor then find another church home. I'm sure he won't lose any sleep over a few people missing from the congregation. Be blessed. :) - one last thing: "faithful", i am proud of you. I commend anyone who has tried to change and it has been successful. May God be with you on you're journey. Id like to start off by saying that no man or woman on this Earth really has the right to say Tonex shouldn’t be pastoring any longer because of who and what he is. Yes you have every right to state your opinion but at the same time that doesn’t mean it has to happen, nor that you’re right. I understand how it could be a disappointment to many but it is what it is. When you’re gay or lesbian or even a struggling transgender you do get tired of holding back how you truly feel. And this I know. So he went ahead and did what he felt he should do. This man preaches the word of God, and regardless of his sexuality, race, disablity, ethnicity, ect, he still IS a child of God. When that book of life is flipped open believe that none of our opinions will matter. God loves all of us equally. I get so tired of the heterosexual community downing gays and talking about how their hell bound…I hope you know just by saying that you could be hell bound yourself. You can’t actually understand the lifestyle unless you’ve lived or live it, and that’s the true problem here, everyone judges what they don’t understand. Question: if being a homosexual is wrong, then how do you explain the people that are actually born that way? There have been studies and people really are born attracted to the same sex. Id like to say that a lot of the homosexuals I know including myself has asked God to remove the feeling to want to be with the same sex, and nothing has happened. I’ve said many of times “I don’t want to be a lesbian”, its too much trouble, and I don’t even know for sure if its right or wrong, and one day I will know the real answer, and if it is wrong then God will do what he needs to with me, and if it is right the same. Although I do feel like change is what you have to truly want, and for the first few times I asked for this to be removed I didn’t want it, but these last few times I did and I’m still where I’ve been for 7 years. But, as far as the bible goes, people interpret it differently, and what message God may have for you, he may not have the same one for me, or anyone else. He speaks to us all in different ways. I know I’ve probably rambled and gotten on subject but whatever. All I’m saying here is that if any person is called to preach the word of God let them do just that. If people feel in their hearts that he’s wrong for continuing to pastor then find another church home. I’m sure he won’t lose any sleep over a few people missing from the congregation. Be blessed. :)

- one last thing: “faithful”, i am proud of you. I commend anyone who has tried to change and it has been successful. May God be with you on you’re journey.

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