Social scientists vs. Spanking – Does spanking make your children dumber?
Written by Oct 31, 2009, 4:06 pm
25 Comments • Related Topics: Corporal Punishment, Family, discipline
Nothing infuriates me more about the topic of spanking children than hearing people say, “if you spank your children – you’re abusing them!” Also when they say, “children who are spanked become more angry, aggressive, and violent.” And the clincher: “According to leading sociologists, spankings may lower a child’s IQ.” Really now? According to a new study by University of New Hampshire sociologist, Murray Straus, spanking will not only make a child more aggressive and less trusting of the parent, but will lower the IQ by five points! A finding that I tried very hard not to laugh at.
Well, there’s a country that is putting this recent study and all other statistics and grumblings to shame: Singapore! Why Singapore? I just found it interesting that in a country that’s known for it’s low crime rate (7.15 per 1000 compared to 80 per 1000 for the US) and math scores higher that our country’s scores , that it practices corporal punishment. It’s citizens can experience this form of discipline called caning from early childhood through college, and most notably in its prisons as well!
What is caning? In terms of Singapore’s use of caning, it is described in Wikipedia as:
“a form of corporal punishment in primary and, especially, secondary schools, and also in one or two post-secondary colleges, to maintain strict discipline in school. This is only applicable to male students. The punishment is administered formally in the British schoolboy caning style.” (And that style is usually a cane sometimes soaked in water and administered to the buttocks.) see Wikipedia
Only to males students? Just imagine if the boys in our country would be caned for discipline problems. Would we even have gangs today? Would teachers be spending so much time in classrooms trying to restore order instead of actual teaching? It’s so interesting that in our country where corporal punishment is nonexistent in most schools, that we have just as many discipline problems – aggression from boys and even girls!
If modern sociologists were correct in spankings lowering IQ’s then Singapore should be the dumbest nation in the world! But it isn’t and that fact alone should immediately prove our US sociologists are the dumb ones for even coming up with such fallacious reports.
Singapore seems to be a country closest to the model of biblical discipline, in spite of it being mostly Buddhist nation. What does the word of God say we should do in disciplining our children?
Proverbs 13:24
He who spares the rod hates his son, but he who loves him is careful to discipline him.Proverbs 22:15
Folly is bound up in the heart of a child, but the rod of discipline will drive it far from him.Proverbs 23:13
Do not withhold discipline from a child; if you punish him with the rod, he will not die.
The rod is an instrument to inflict pain, a message that Singapore gets. America doesn’t and we are spending hours and hours of wasted time trying to “reason” with a child who’s mind isn’t even fully developed to even comprehend why they are acting up to begin with! Case in point: a woman shared in one of the forums of the spanking discussions that she had told her toddler not to run into the streets and reasoned with them that they could get hit by a car. The child acknowledged her and as soon as the mother turned around the child darted into the street ANYWAYS! The mother caught the child in time and gave her a spanking. Her child did get THAT message and didn’t run into the streets again! This mother shared that if her child didn’t get spanked for disobeying her, she could be dead!
The instructions to discipline a child still come with much responsibility as a parent needs the wisdom to determine WHEN a child needs to be spanked. As a mother of five children who were all spanked to some degree, the rule of thumb was to discipline when a child disobeyed or acted in defiance. Some of my children a mere ‘no’ was sufficient and at times just a tap would do before the child was sobbing in deep remorse. Some of my more strong-willed children needed more stringent discipline which required a “beating” with a belt or paddle. Not beat to injury, but beat to inflict pain.
My methods of spanking varied from the pulling of the pants down, underwear left on so not to humiliate the naked child but also to prevent bruising, to a tap on the hand for my less temperamental children. Usually a red bottom would result from the spanking, redness that’s gone from the next day. Of course, if a child went to school and the teachers would ever see redness on the behind, that would more than likely result in a child abuse charge but I always told my children they would have to arrest me to keep me from spanking them! Not one of my five children ever called 911 on me either!
Those five children are either graduated from college, or in college right now. One of my five is working on her Master’s degree. I am a college graduate and so is my Ph.D dad who did most of the spanking in the family and as a man who was also spanked as a child. None of us have ever been to jail for being overly aggressive. In fact if you talked to most people who’ve ever received a spanking or gave spankings, in most of those cases they also came out quite normal with their intelligence in tact!
Somehow those sociological reports just don’t add up. We Americans spank less (because of the fear of child abuse charges and the ridiculous brainwashing that somehow reasoning with a temper tantrum throwing child is more beneficial), yet we have more crime. We don’t use corporal punishment, yet our students have some of the lowest academic scores for us to be such an industrialized nation.
Now I would never advocate the same type of caning that the Singapore prison system uses, but discipline that makes use of an object to inflict pain and not injury and done consistently would make quite an effective mode of discipline. And discipline only for the child that needs it as not all children even need to be spanked.
If we need an example of what happens when the rod is taken away, we needn’t look further than our own nation which is leaving biblical principles further and further behind.
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UPDATE 1/04/10
Study: Spanked Children May Grow Up to Be Happier, More Successful – Fox News
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Tags: Corporal Punishment, corporeal punishment, discipline, IQ, Murray Straus, Singapore caning, Singapore crime rates, Singapore math statistics, spanking, spare the rod







October 31st 2009 on 5:52 pm
Excellent distinctions, Carlotta. Basic discipline is so lacking today and we see the (bad) fruit from that constantly.
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October 31st 2009 on 6:30 pm
That’s so true Neil. Parents are in denial if they think that they can somehow reason with their children through EVERYTHING! The arrogance in believing that their methods are full proof not giving any room for varying temperaments.
I contrast two local schools here in San Diego, one a private one where parents can give teachers permission to spank their children and the public school where of course there’s no corporal punishment. The teachers have absolute control in the private school but in the public school teachers are having to duck from having chairs thrown at them by 2nd graders! So parents, schools and the penal system can certainly benefit from following God’s rules – spare the rod and spoil the child!
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October 31st 2009 on 9:10 pm
Sweden has banned spanking by parents for over 30 years. A recent study of the anti-spanking law noted:
Closer to (my) home, New Zealand recently banned smacking. Says Bob McCoskrie, National Director of Family First NZ:
I have a relative who told me a story that once he spanked his then 5 yo son, who cried uncontrollably; this relative felt so guilty that he resolved never to spank his children again. Today, he has two incredibly unruly, self-centred children who neither respect him nor wish to associate with him.
The key is to discipline out of love, not anger. And all discipline hurts yet, strangely, is actually a measure to better shape us as people.
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October 31st 2009 on 9:15 pm
Wow! That was soooo interesting Mathew. I’d never heard those statistics before but it does show the failure of not following God’s wisdom as opposed to man’s wisdom! Thanks for sharing that!
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November 9th 2009 on 7:51 am
Carlotta, nicely done. I once heard a pastor extol, “For your child, discipline will take place in one of two chairs… the high chair or the electric chair.”
I don’t know about dumber, but when I tear up that behind, my lil’ Wall Watchers sure get smarter about what I’m asking them to do.
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November 9th 2009 on 7:59 am
Thanks HiScrivener! I love what you said about your lil’ Wall Watcher! Point on! Lol!
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November 9th 2009 on 7:59 pm
Just read through a report published by BBC News titled: Tough Love is Good for Children.
Interesting read and relevant to your post here, although the story doesn’t mention anything about how to administer the said ‘tough love’.
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November 9th 2009 on 9:09 pm
Thanks for sharing that article Mathew. I too was looking for the “how” to administer this tough love. I only shake my head at some of us parents when tough love has been replaced with “let’s just reason with our children.” Heck, I couldn’t even do that with my teens let alone toddlers! Teens especially speak and understand a completely different language than their parents and just have to settle for the “because I told you so” statement by moms and dads. I tried going through the “explaining” route but when the only response I would get then is that “it doesn’t make sense mom.” That would leave me with no other course than just to say “just do it!”
Yes, parents today are too chicken to spank and not strong enough to realize that you can’t play psychologist with them and give them a “reason” for everything they must do on earth. They have to learn as we have learned with our heavenly Father: if He says so, we must do so without question and in complete obedience!
November 13th 2009 on 5:21 pm
Just from a common sense perspective, seems like a child would become smarter from spanking – they’d exercise their noggin’ to figure out how NOT to get a spankin’. lol
November 19th 2009 on 5:29 am
God’s word is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow. Many ‘know it alls’ think that the Bible is ancient and try to come up with “new age” wisdom. But as more of this “new age” wisdom is implemented in society, the more primitive the country becomes.
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November 19th 2009 on 6:24 am
Amen Johanne!
December 5th 2009 on 4:12 pm
Excellent Article!
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December 9th 2009 on 8:23 am
Thanks DP!
December 19th 2009 on 11:17 am
Speaking as a someone who was never physically punished as a child, I have personally never smacked my children, nor would I.
Having said that, what I find offensive, is when people in certain positions of influence, deem it necessary to condescendingly instruct other parents as to how and when they discipline their own children.
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December 19th 2009 on 11:31 am
Condescending to instruct parents to properly discipline their kids? Evidently you’ve never walked into a classroom (or Sunday school class) with children being obnoxious, rude, disobedient and just plain wild! Nor have you witnessed bratty children publicly disrespect their parents in other public places.
Sorry, there’s just too many children out there who aren’t disciplined and are allowed to talk crap to their parents while their parents waste their time trying to “reason” with them. Parents need educating on to how and when to discipline their kids.
January 3rd 2010 on 9:12 pm
Child buttock-battering vs. DISCIPLINE:
Child buttock-battering for the purpose of gaining compliance is nothing more than an inherited bad habit.
Its a good idea for people to take a look at what they are doing, and learn how to DISCIPLINE instead of hit.
I think the reason why television shows like “Supernanny” and “Dr. Phil” are so popular is because that is precisely what many (not all) people are trying to do.
There are several reasons why child bottom-slapping isn’t a good idea. Here are some good, quick reads recommended by professionals:
Plain Talk About Spanking
by Jordan Riak,
The Sexual Dangers of Spanking Children
by Tom Johnson,
NO VITAL ORGANS THERE, So They Say
by Lesli Taylor M.D. and Adah Maurer Ph.D.
Most compelling of all reasons to abandon this worst of all bad habits is the fact that buttock-battering can be unintentional sexual abuse for some children. There is an abundance of educational resources, testimony, documentation, etc available on the subject that can easily be found by doing a little research with the recommended reads-visit http://www.nospank.net.
Just a handful of those helping to raise awareness of why child bottom-slapping isn’t a good idea:
American Academy of Pediatrics,
American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry,
Center For Effective Discipline,
PsycHealth Ltd Behavioral Health Professionals,
Churches’ Network For Non-Violence,
Nobel Peace Prize recipient Archbishop Desmond Tutu,
Parenting In Jesus’ Footsteps,
Global Initiative To End All Corporal Punishment of Children,
United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child.
In 26 countries, child corporal punishment is prohibited by law (with more in process). In fact, the US was the only UN member that did not ratify the Convention on the Rights of the Child.
January 3rd 2010 on 9:16 pm
The Bible has been abused for centuries to justify witch burning, Inquisitions, slavery, racism, oppression of women, and all manner of such social ills.
I see that many people of our time are still doing just that.
“The much-touted ‘biblical argument’ in support of corporal punishment is founded upon proof-texting a few isolated passages from Proverbs. Using the same method of selective scripture reading, one could also cite the Bible as an authority for the practice of slavery, adultery, polygamy, incest, suppression of women, executing people who eat pork, and infanticide. The brutal and vindictive practice of corporal punishment cannot be reconciled with the major New Testament themes that teach love and forgiveness and a respect for the sacredness and dignity of children, and which overwhelmingly reject violence and retribution as a means of solving human problems. Would Jesus ever hit a child? NEVER!”
The Rev. Thomas E. Sagendorf, United Methodist Clergy (Retired), Hamilton, Indiana. Personal communication, 2006.
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January 3rd 2010 on 10:59 pm
PD, what is often ignored by modern day professionals who disagree with corporal punishment are the end results. With slavery, racism, and all kinds of oppression there is obviously nothing good about those societal ills. But with spanking (not abusive) what is ignored is that children who are disciplined in those ways, for the most part still end up quite well adjusted individuals. So to say that the Bible has been wrongly translated from those passages is ignoring the positive fruits resulting from this type of discipline. I’ve used corporal punishment with my children and I have received throughout the years many compliments on how well behaved my children are. Corporal punishment = well behaved children who respect authority. No corporal punishment (on children who need it) = spoiled brats, or children so unruly that the only resort is medicating them. ADHD and all of these other medical diagnosis for hyperactive children for the most part would be completely unnecessary if the parent would just discipline the child!
I’m of the belief that all children don’t need to be spanked, but to say that NO children never need to be spanked is what I consider a very dangerous statement to make. That’s saying that all children’s temperaments can be controlled by merely showing “love and forgiveness.” That’s an almost laughable statement to me! Because I’ve seen the frustration in parents trying to talk their way through a child throwing a major temper tantrum!
A parent who withholds discipline from their child does not truly love them and that is reiterated in Proverbs 13:24 that was shared above: “He who spares the rod hates his son, but he who loves him is careful to discipline him.” So who do I believe? Social scientists who disagree with corporal punishment or the Bible?
I think you know where I stand!
January 7th 2010 on 1:22 pm
Wait a minute, you’re actually saying that young boys should be CANED? With canes dipped in water? What the hell are you thinking?
That’s kind of… well, warped.
Singapore probably has children who do better academically, not because they get caned but because there’s more of an emphasis on education in the first place and more resources, especially in terms of parenting go into making sure that kids actually study. It’s not so much NOT spanking that is the problem, it’s deciding NOT to figure out alternative ways to discipline. A child can be disciplined without resorting to canes and the like! There’s got to be some sort of line.
Caning boys wouldn’t stop them from starting gangs. It would probably really actually make them more aggressive.
Plus, again, in order to have that low crime rate, you’d have to sacrifice a great deal of freedom, have fines and harsh punishments for things the way Singapore does. No, the issues are probably more complex than that.
April 1st 2010 on 7:26 am
I just want to say that the argument being presented is completely false, as you have said. I am a product of discipline (i.e. spankings with a wooden spoon). I am not aggressive, nor am I scared of my parents’ hands. With that, I’m not “dumb” by any means. I scored a 31 on the ACT, AND I got into our state’s leading university on a full ride (my tuition, room and board, book fees, etc are all covered). Just wanted to share that with you!!
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April 1st 2010 on 7:31 am
Thanks for sharing that Breanna! You are just another example on the fruits of effective discipline that our God completely encourages. It didn’t damage your intelligence or your spirit. Hooray for your parents for they did a great job with you!
April 13th 2010 on 11:17 am
Uh spanking is not okay…since when is it okay to hit anyone…If someone is acting up at work and I went and spanked them or hit their hang I would go to jail…so if I go to jail for hitting an adult thats my size….why shouldnt I go to jail for hitting someone one fouth of my size for acting rudely…I have never hit my daughter and yet she seems to get good grades and listen to me….so why is it I can make her listen to me withouth hitting her and other parents are having such a hard time getting their points across without hitting their kids?
July 11th 2010 on 2:30 pm
Carlotta, you stated the following, “what is often ignored by modern day professionals who disagree with corporal punishment are the end results” Here is a child abuse web site where adult victims with sexual addiction spanking fetishes share the shameful secret pain their loving parents inflicted in the name of Christian good parenting. It IS a subsequenct “end” result of spanking for some children, a messed up sexuality for life! Jesus would never approve!
http://www.child-abuse-effects.com/can-childhood-spankings-be-administered-because-of-or-lead-to-a-spanking-fetish.html
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July 12th 2010 on 11:43 am
Jon, that was pretty sick and I can understand the author’s reasons for hating spanking. But anyone can take something meant for good and turn it into bad. Disciplining children takes wisdom, love and purpose and without those three ingredients spanking will run amok!
But I agree with you that Jesus would never approve of that type of discipline!
August 25th 2010 on 8:43 am
First, the 49% reported increase compared the Swedish rate with two American studies, done in 1975 and 1985. Problem with that comparison is child abuse was measured differently. It is like comparing the FBI’s homicide rate (which includes suicides) with the homicide rate in England (which doesn’t include suicides). The Swedish report includes allegations, both of the United States reports did not… thus, it made Sweden look like there was more child abuse. This is why it’s always problematic to compare different studies that measure the consequences differently.
Finally Hyman in 1997 conducted very rigorous research which showed that child abuse is much less prevalent in Sweden, spanking is view as abuse by the vast majority of parents, and that delinquent behavior (measured by academics, jailing, etc) continues to decrease in Sweden. The EU conducted similar studies on the effects of the German, Italian, etc spanking ban… and the results are the same. Combined with the fact that spanking leads to more aggressive behavior, lower IQ, etc… this is why the American Pediatric Association finally spoke out against it in the late 90s. Why… because the empirical evidence is overwhelmingly against spanking.
You say the end result is what matters. Look at the USA compared to Europe. The statistics on rape, burglary, assault, and murder are much higher than Sweden. For a nation that doesn’t “discipline” their children… their young adults seem especially civilized.
You then go to counter empirical evidence with anecdotal evidence. Guess what, my parents were against spanking… and I am in medical school with my sister in law school and my oldest brother owning his own business.
And I love how you quote a proverb from Solomon… who’s son was a tyrant.