Are Public Schools Becoming More Anti Christian?
Written by Jan 8, 2010, 12:06 pm
28 Comments • Related Topics: Schools, education
I have decided for several reasons to take back the responsibility from the government of educating my children. One reason, public schools have been on track for several years now to offer what I would consider parenting to our children, instilling values that are contradictory to our family’s beliefs.
Issues like sexual orientation, birth control, and sexual responsibility has recently become the responsibility of public schools to teach to our
children. Do we really want a place of academia to provide lessons in morality to our children? The principles taught in many schools regarding this issue is completely opposite of the biblical teachings we provide to our daughters. Sexual Orientation, well as a Christian mother, I have taught my children that it is not biblical to engage in intercourse with the same sex. *Public schools in California has started curriculum in gay tolerance at the kindergarten level. This is not wide spread all over the country, but you can expect to see it happening soon. This was passed in California because lawmakers felt that gay children or children with gay parents have been victims of bullying. I do not advocate bullying and mistreatment of any kind. I know of several children that have gay parents and are not being bullied or mistreated by their peers. They are rather accepted. I question the truth in the states reason for adding gay tolerance curriculum. It sounds more like indoctrination to me.
“Do not practice homosexuality, having sex with another man as with a woman. It is a detestable sin. – Leviticus 18:22
The law is for people who are sexually immoral, or who practice homosexuality, or are slave traders, [ Or kidnappers.] liars, promise breakers, or who do anything else that contradicts the wholesome teaching - 1 Timothy 1:10
Birth control issues can be tricky. While I believe young people should be educated on the methods of birth control, this should be up to each family how they want to present the methods and guidelines. There are a lot of harmful birth controls that I wouldn’t want my daughters experimenting with. The dangers of a young woman using birth control too early or too long before she is ready to start a family could present infertility issues later in life. Also, the use of birth control can promote unhealthy sexual behavior such as promiscuity and premarital sex. This is very contrary to our Christian beliefs.
Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a man commits are outside his body, but he who sins sexually sins against his own body. - 1 Corinthians 6:18
Sexual responsibility is more than just about preventing births and sexually transmitted diseases. It is about a lifetime commitment with your sexual partner, in the form of a heterosexual marriage. It is about being prepared to start a family. Schools typically do not teach what true sexual responsibility is. Our children are being taught it is ok to engage in sex as long as you “protect yourself”. This is not biblical.
Marriage should be honored by all, and the marriage bed kept pure, for God will judge the adulterer and all the sexually immoral. – Hebrews 13:4
These are just a few of the many reasons why our family has decided to homeschool our children. We have taken back control over our children by educating them from a Christian World View. In the future I will be writing about more issues related to public school indoctrinations and anti-Christian teaching/values. I look forward to hearing your responses.
* To read more information about the new curriculum click here.
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January 8th 2010 on 5:27 pm
Hi Carlotta,
I hope you are having a good new year. I can understand your desire to homeschool your children. I assume that you are doing this personally? I just hope that you prepare them for college–they will need to be able to pass exams to get into college and I worry about homeschooled children.
Once they are adults they can then make their own decisions on the issues you write about.
Do you think that teaching about other cultures other than Christian is ‘indoctrination’ or teaching tolerance for those with other views?
You have every right to take your children out of the public school system. I would do it if schools started telling kids that Christianity was the only correct religion, so I can relate.
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January 8th 2010 on 5:28 pm
Couldn’t agree with you more on this TammyTG! We need to take control of our children’s education as much as possible! Our children can be in these public schools up to 8 hours a day – so who’s indoctrination are they receiving? Rest assured they are spending those hours never hearing the name of Jesus are biblical commandments in how to live.
Quite the opposite as you’ve said. They are being taught to assume to have sex before their married and they must be taught how to put condoms on or how to use birth control! Insane! Public schools shouldn’t even be attempting to teach about sex at all and should let that remain with the parent.
Now there’s a call for Christian churches to make Christian education affordable, especially for the single-parent who may not be able to stay home and homeschool their children (I tried it). But education is expensive and many times parents have no choice but to place their children in these public schools.
Praying for solutions for all who desire to raise their children in God’s standards and not mans!
January 8th 2010 on 5:33 pm
Hi Carlotta,
I just noticed that you did not write the article. Sorry–I didnt’ realize that other people were contributing here. So please direct my comments to Tammytg.
Tammy–I read that link you provided. It states that schools only have to give a 45 minute lesson, once a year! That is really nothing, at least to me. And that link is nearly a year old. Is this why you decided to take your kids out? Because of 45 minutes/year teaching them about bullying?
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January 8th 2010 on 8:52 pm
No problem Kevin! Tammytg, the busy mom will answer your comments soon!
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January 8th 2010 on 8:56 pm
Kevin I do want to add to your comment you made here:
It’s not the school’s job to teach tolerance to anything! If they will spend time teaching tolerance to gays, then they will have to teach tolerance to the fat kids, the skinny kids, the kids with pimples and the list goes on and on. It is indoctrination for the Christian for a school to teach children that “it’s ok to be gay” when for the Christian it isn’t ok to be gay. Usually, along with the tolerance teachings is the teaching that “it’s ok” and that’s where the buck stops as the saying goes!
January 8th 2010 on 8:58 pm
Hello Kevin, I am new to Christocentric. Thank you for your comments and insight. We have been homeschooling now for 3 years. Our daughters
are getting a very good education. While we instill Christian values in them, we do not shelter them from other cultures. I realize the article linked
to this post is older and the lesson to the children is short, however this is just the beginning. This particular issue is not the reason we decided to homeschool
as we are not residents of California. These are one of a many issues we are concerned about. Both my husband and i are personally homeschooling
the girls and they take yearly exams as well. We are both educated and my husband is a professor in the college of education. We have a lot of resources too.
Our daughters are college bound.
There is nothing wrong with teaching about other cultures and of course we are suppose to live with respect to everyone regardless
of our differences. When schools decide to teach children about values based on what they believe are truth and important, I think they have
usurped the parents authority on those issues. Since they get our children for 8 hours a day most of the year and are shaping their values in matters
they shouldn’t be involved in, this in my opinion is indoctrination. We teach our children Christian-based values as well as how to be kind, respectful,
and sociable with many who do not share our views.
January 12th 2010 on 4:03 pm
Hi Carlotta, I was a bit surprised when you wrote ” then they will have to teach tolerance to the fat kids, the skinny kids, the kids with pimples and the list goes on and on.” This list contains the type of students that are regularly picked on. I’m sure you don’t think it is right for fat kids to be picked on. School is a place to educate kids on being good citizens–that includes, in my opinion, how to deal with people who are different.
I think the problem here is the definition of ‘indoctrination.’ 45 minutes a year is not indoctrination in my opinion. In fact, my guess is that most children will forget what they even talked about if it really is just 45 mintues!
Hi Tammy, that is nice to hear about all the effort you are putting into your daughter’s education. I think it is a great thing when parents invest time like this. I would seriously consider doing the same if I didn’t like what the schools were doing.
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January 12th 2010 on 7:30 pm
Kevin, you said:
Public school isn’t the place to educate kids on being good citizens. The teaching of right and wrong is morality, and belongs in the home or one’s church. School should be a place where kids are taught to abide by rules, any rules that the school may have. So picking on kids – ANY kind of kid would not be allowed. There would be no need to break it down on the different types of children as long as the rules are in place and unruliness and bullying are not tolerated at all.
Indoctrination is brainwashing children into believing a particular thing. Teaching children that “it’s okay to be gay” is indoctrination as far as the Christian is concerned. There is no need for that type of teaching as all children should be taught to be respectful of anyone – according to the school’s rules.
January 12th 2010 on 7:35 pm
I teach my children to respectfully and openly confront any teacher who attempts to tell them anything affirming of homosexual conduct. Then, if they get in “trouble” call me. I will handle it from there.
We cant allow our children to become passive, sitting ducks in the classroom.
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January 12th 2010 on 7:50 pm
Completely agree GCMWatch!
January 13th 2010 on 5:12 pm
Hi Carlotta, I think you are absolutely wrong about not teaching kids to be good citizens. What rules do you think schools are teaching? I hope you can see the parallels between those rules and how they should be applied outside of school. Funny enough, I was just reading a journal I receive. Here is what Professor Mary Armstrong had to say: “But practicing classroom equity has profound consequence because it highlights something critically important within the pedagogical endeavor: We are teaching more than the subject we teach. In our interactions, in our decisions, in our adherence to ethical standards, we are teaching our “second subject”: setting an example of open-minded fairness, demonstrating honest critical inquiry, modeling the best form of authority, and exercising power that recognizes justice and practices respect for others and their rights. Classroom equity promotes ideals that underlied the foundations of productive civic life and good gloabl citizenship: equal treatment, non-bias, respect for facts, decisions driven by logic and reason.” I couldn’t agree more.
No child should have to be an empty bucket that facts are dumped into during an 8 hour day. It just doesn’t work like that. That is not the reason for getting an education. The whole history of education is that you get better citizens the more they are educated.
So DL–do have your kids contact you if the teacher talks about divorce in a good way? Just wondering how you decide for them what is education. By the way, do your kids know of your ex-gay history and what your ministry is about?
January 13th 2010 on 7:26 pm
So DL–do have your kids contact you if the teacher talks about divorce in a good way?
DL: NOPE and since when have teachers told their students that getting a divorce is normal and should be accepted by society? Cite some examples, if you can.
Just wondering how you decide for them what is education.
DL: Im their father. Biological type. Education is what the teacher is contracted to teach per stated expertise and degreed training. If its math, teach math, etc. They’re not contracted to teach my child sexual morality. I also decide what time my children go to bed at night.
By the way, do your kids know of your ex-gay history and what your ministry is about?
DL:If that’s what you wanna call it, YEP and YEP.
January 13th 2010 on 9:11 pm
Hello Kevin, thank you, we really enjoy spending the quality time with our daughters.
In response to your post:
Funny enough, I was just reading a journal I receive. Here is what Professor Mary Armstrong had to say: “But practicing classroom equity has profound consequence because it highlights something critically important within the pedagogical endeavor: We are teaching more than the subject we teach. In our interactions, in our decisions, in our adherence to ethical standards, we are teaching our “second subject”: setting an example of open-minded fairness, demonstrating honest critical inquiry, modeling the best form of authority, and exercising power that recognizes justice and practices respect for others and their rights. Classroom equity promotes ideals that underlied the foundations of productive civic life and good gloabl citizenship: equal treatment, non-bias, respect for facts, decisions driven by logic and reason.” I couldn’t agree more.
This is precisely why we educate our children from home. We do not trust the perspectives of teachers. This only supports the concern we have that children are being indoctrinated in schools. The “second subject” is taught based on what the teacher feels is ethical, open-minded fairness, and whatever they consider is respect for others.
January 13th 2010 on 9:15 pm
gcmwatch, i agree. Educators need to stick to their expertise.
January 14th 2010 on 8:06 am
Hi Tammy,
I should have pointed out that this is a professor who teaches at college.
DL–How do I decide what education is? I have already answered that.
To Tammy and DL: You can’t possibly expect teachers to go into the classroom and not have an impact on their students outside of the specialty that the teacher has. Kids (and college students) watch how you act towards other people. If you are rude to students, the students will react (usually in a rude way). If you act respectful towards them, they will act respectful back. A teacher acts how they want their students to be. As I said before, students are not just empty buckets who soak up only what you tell them to and ignore everything else. I sincerely hope your children aren’t like this.
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January 15th 2010 on 4:24 am
Kevin: “Hi Carlotta, I think you are absolutely wrong about not teaching kids to be good citizens. What rules do you think schools are teaching?”
What classes would that be in school Kevin? There’s history, math, english, social studies, and etc. For a parent that doesn’t have the choice of homeschooling or the very expensive private schools, they send their kids to the schools for the purpose of learning the above topics. Most of character building education has to begin and end with home because the school does not develop that at all.
Public schools are the last choice for many because of the amorality and the indoctrination of whatever school system that child is a part of. Indoctrination such as birth control clinics on campus, sex-ed classes that scorn abstinence, and just the whole godless atmosphere altogether. Kids are taught in public school that success is all about money and not about life in general and a relationship with God.
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January 15th 2010 on 4:29 am
Kevin:“No child should have to be an empty bucket that facts are dumped into during an 8 hour day. It just doesn’t work like that. That is not the reason for getting an education. The whole history of education is that you get better citizens the more they are educated.”
I do agree with you there but that’s exactly what’s happening in most of our schools! Children just can’t learn ethical standards by just watching their teachers in a classroom setting. A teacher’s example is very shallow without actually telling their students WHY they must behave a certain way. That’s why I don’t like abstinence teachings in a public classroom setting. Abstinence without God leaves many children with the “well why should I abstain?” Morality, ethics without God is pointless.
January 15th 2010 on 4:11 pm
Hi Carlotta–I was more thinking of the rules that are set down in school which then apply to everyday situations outside of school (thereby creating better citizens). These would be–be polite, don’t push, no fighting, take your turn and so on. These are things that schools teach, regardless of the course they are taking. These are examples then that the teacher and the principal and everyone else that works in the school should be following. It is hoped that then when the child leaves the school grounds, they will then act in a decent manner. Sure, parents should be teaching this as well (and if the behavior of children these days is any indication–parents are failing miserably), but kids have to go to school. It is where they learn about many different things, and that includes more than just what subject they are taking.
About abstinence and sex education courses–as far as I know, parents have to give permission for kids to sit in on these courses. They don’t have to attend. And schools in California are not required to teach about sex (http://www.cde.ca.gov/ls/he/se/faq.asp) but most do. Here is what the California code states: “The law recognizes that while parents and guardians support the teaching of medically accurate, comprehensive sex education in schools, they have the ultimate responsibility for teaching their children about human sexuality; they may choose to withdraw their children from this instruction.
EC sections 51937 and 51938 explain that parents or guardians must be notified (passive consent) by the school at the beginning of the school year about planned comprehensive sexual health education and HIV/AIDS prevention education, be given an opportunity to review materials, and be given the opportunity to request in writing that their child not participate in the instruction.”
So if parents don’t like this being taught to their kids, it is their choice to take them out.
January 23rd 2010 on 4:05 pm
Carlotta,
Is it your view that public schools should be careful not to teach anything that is opposed by any religion in the country, or are you of the opinion that schools should carve out special exceptions for Christian parents and their children?
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January 23rd 2010 on 11:29 pm
Phil, public schools should just concentrate on teaching their subjects without any political correctness. Math teach numbers, English words, history historical facts and so on and so on. Leave all the spiritual and political discussions for the home. Is this possible? I think so.
January 24th 2010 on 1:55 pm
Carlotta,
It’s safe to say that there aren’t a lot of social/religious controversies in math. But when you say that schools should teach their subjects without any political correctness, I think you misunderstand what “politically correct” means. Sure, it’s become a buzzword for harebrained attempts to avoid offending anyone. But you are stating that schools _ought_ to avoid offending parents, so what you’re asking for _is_ a form of political correctness.
Don’t get me wrong; I don’t think that “political correctness” is inherently good or bad, as practiced. I think there are good examples and bad examples. No teacher in the country would show up on Halloween dressed in blackface, for example, and I think that’s an example of _good_ political correctness.
But it’s also a little simplistic to suggest that schools should just teach facts in each subject, because various religions object to certain facts. No class, at any grade level, is just an organized dissemination of facts: creating a curriculum also involves choosing what to leave out.
The book you’ve chosen to illustrate this post is “And Tango Makes Three,” a true story of a same-sex penguin couple which hatched an egg. Does that book pass muster, because the book is factual and it contains words? Or should it be banned in schools because it contains themes that some religions find offensive and some don’t?
And, if “Tango” is not acceptable in schools, then should schools also ban books that depict people eating ham and pork? Should schools ban books that depict women getting jobs or running households?
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January 24th 2010 on 5:26 pm
Children in public schools always presents a quandry to Christian parents. Of course we want school to be more than a just a stockpile of facts but for the parents who can’t afford private school or unable to homeschool, they hope their children aren’t learning anything contrary to their faith. Tango is a book that tries to get children to accept homosexual families as normal and of course that runs contrary to the Christian faith. That is indoctrination plain and simple no one should have be subjected to anything offensive to their beliefs.
Phil you ask if schools should also ban books that depict people eating ham and pork and women getting jobs running households… the question should be is it indoctrination? A book exclusively about homosexual families acceptance as normal is indoctrination. A book trying to persuade folks that ALL meat is good and everyone should eat it is indoctrination. Books teaching that women who stay home to raise their children is not good but working women should be the only norm is indoctrination. Schools need to leave indoctrination alone and stick with education that will prepare them for college and the work world.
School SHOULD be about teaching character and morality and that’s the advantage of private schools and homeschool. And I encourage any parent to seek those avenues first. But many can’t and public schools are the only choice available.
January 24th 2010 on 7:27 pm
Hi Carlotta–so if I understand you correctly, the teaching of just one way is indoctrination? If kids in public school were taught that Christianity is the only religion, would that be indoctrination to you?
Teaching about other people (sexual orientation, different faiths, different social characteristics) is part of preparing kids for college and the work world. Whether some people like it or not, gay families exist. Whether some people like it or not, other religions exist. I personally would find a work place intolerable if someone stated that gay people (or people of other religions) are evil and shouldn’t be considered a family or told people that they shouldn’t be tolerated. It is likely that people who aren’t taught about different people are not going to succeed in most work places in this country.
January 24th 2010 on 9:07 pm
“Tango is a book that tries to get children to accept homosexual families as normal and of course that runs contrary to the Christian faith. That is indoctrination plain and simple no one should have be subjected to anything offensive to their beliefs.”
But surely we can both agree that people who hold other religious viewpoints–views different from both yours and mine–might find books to be offensive that both you and I find perfectly innocuous.
I certainly think it’s wrongheaded for someone to be offended by “And Tango Makes Three”– it is, after all, a book based on a true story. Beyond that, of course, I see nothing immoral about same-sex relationships.
But it’s easy to envision parents taking issue with all _kinds_ of children’s books, based on their religion. What if a strict muslim family is offended by a story about a determined and plucky young girl who studies hard in school and becomes the mayor of her city? Who are we to tell them they shouldn’t be offended?
My point is not to force you to quibble about the various ways that books might be offensive. Rather, I have two pretty simple points:
1. It seems reasonable that we can both agree that people who follow other religions might be offended by books or lessons that neither you nor I find offensive.
2. As such, does either of us believe that schools should ban _all_ books and lessons that a parent might find offensive for religious reasons?
Some religions preach against interracial relationships. Is it reasonable for parents who adhere to such religions to expect public schools to eschew all lessons that might paint interracial relationships in a favorable light?
Or is it reasonable to suggest that, if we are going to treat all religions equally, then we shouldn’t ban or censor public school curriculum based on things that religions find offensive?
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January 25th 2010 on 7:45 am
Kevin:“–so if I understand you correctly, the teaching of just one way is indoctrination? If kids in public school were taught that Christianity is the only religion, would that be indoctrination to you?
No, the teaching for the APPROVAL or ACCEPTANCE of a subject is indoctrination. Better yet, the dictionary’s definition:
I don’t mind teachings about subjects such as the different religions and even homosexuality, but if it’s taught for the purpose of someone’s point of view or belief then that’s what I have a problem with Kevin.
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January 25th 2010 on 7:47 am
Phil, refer to my response to Kevin. Same deal – teach to educate not to indoctrinate!
June 16th 2010 on 6:24 pm
Thumbs up for homeschooling!
July 21st 2010 on 10:19 am
Okay, okay, this is definitely for me. I am a huge homeschool advocate. I have homeschooled all of my children at one time or another. In fact, i am still homeschooling my two youngest children and I also tutor other homeschooled children. I have daughter who attends Rutgers University, and another who received a full 4 year scholarship to Montclair State University. Let me tell you, homeschooling definitely works and people of faith should strongly consider it for their children. If you cannot do it yourself, then pray to find someone reputable who will help you by tutoring your child for you, while they homeschool their own children. Thank God for it, indeed. This helps to combat the indoctrination of many wicked things which are taught in public schools. Evil communications corrupt good manners. If anyone has questions about it, seriously, let me know. I’d be more than happy to help in any way I can. Blessings!